u/lordofthehomeless. Archived. I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet so here is a video from the no banlist Modern Gauntlet of Greatness that shows how busted it is: https://youtu.be/YmlOWDNN-g4. Is there ever a possibility of it being unbanned? That's pretty much it, though I'd argue the card that makes Legacy and Vintage dredge tick is actually Cabal Therapy (which also isn't modern legal). Flashback—Sacrifice three creatures. A subreddit dedicated to the discussion of Magic: The Gathering's Modern format! Not saying that Dread Return isn't absurd, however. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=16164&d=299736&f=VI. The deck is weaker, but a lot of the main dredge engine is there to toy with. Details | Sets & Legality | Language | Discussion Community Rating: Community Rating: 4.565 / 5 (115 votes) Click here to view ratings and comments. That loop also works well with Bridge from Below for zombies to dread return or just to smack in with if needed. Its a powerful card but dredge in modern doesn't have the tools that Legacy and Vintage have in order to be completely broken. 9 comments. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast . Card Name: Dread Return. Dredge is also incredibly non interactive with your opponent. With it there are a lot of ways to t2-t3 kill with dredge and thats to fast for a combo deck thats basically immune to counterspells and hand disruption. Newer cards make it so much better. Press J to jump to the feed. Not saying that Dread Return isn't absurd, however. I'm curious as to what makes dread return broken in modern enough to require it being banned? Modern has most of the tools that dredge needs to be powerful in Legacy anyways. Dreead Return is probably one of the scariest cards on the banlist, in league with cards like Skullclamp, Hypergenesis or Glimpse of Nature It just enables a consitent Turn 3 combo deck. Dread Return. save hide report. u/Kitchenlynx89. Don't forget you also then probably play bridge from belows and get to just make tons of zombie tokens. Join us discussing news, tournaments, gameplay, deckbuilding, strategy, lore, fan art, cosplay, and more. Dredge would have everything it needs to create an army of hasty zombies and most decks would not have a way to interact with the combo game one. bloodghast, nacromeba, prized amalgam, and to a lesser extent bridge from below combine with the dredge mechanic. Card Text: Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. Sign In Register. I'll be happy if it's never unbanned. Most of the stuff that makes dredge really good is already modern legal. Modern is already the fastest format. You could still do a lot of the things Legacy Dredge does. Everyone talking about dredge, I just wanna play [[mesmeric orb]] + [[Fatestitcher]] for the [[Angel of glory's rise]] kill... Fatestitcher - (G) (MC)Angel of glory's rise - (G) (MC)mesmeric orb - (G) (MC)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. 0. Modern has most of the tools that dredge needs to be powerful in Legacy anyways level 1 A diverse community of players devoted to Magic: the Gathering, a trading card game ("TCG") produced by Wizards of the Coast and originally designed by Richard Garfield. It would be quite good and probably have a better game 1 than affinity while also being faster. (You may cast this card from your graveyard fo... MTG Salvation. Sort by. Would the unbanning of dread return allow dredge to become a competitively viable archetype? If dread return was unbanned modern what broken things could it do that would be broken? Close. Until last year [[Sword of the Meek]] was also banned and I had to explain to people getting into modern why that was. People forget just how busted dredge is. It could have big dredges with golgari grave trolls on turn one and kill on the same turn with bridge from below zombies. Loot into double Dredger, put a few bridges on your GY, put a few Narcoamoebas into play, etc. Asking for a friend. Types: Sorcery. Dredge is already one of the best decks in Modern. Dreead Return is probably one of the scariest cards on the banlist, in league with cards like Skullclamp, Hypergenesis or Glimpse of Nature, It just enables a consitent Turn 3 combo deck. I would have said it'd be powerful but easily hated out in the past, but post shadows over innistrad I think it'd be more powerful but easily hated out. Not modern legal, but one of the cooler things I've seen done with dread return. 6 months ago. Mana Cost: Converted Mana Cost: 4. Not a fringe deck. Unfortunately this isn't true, there is no LED, Ichorid or Cabal Therapy in modern. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. We've already got one deck that auto-wins game one and forces you to spend sideboard slots to have any chance in the subsequent games. This thread is archived. Posted by. More than likely the thing you'd see would be a really tough dredgevine deck taking advantage of dread return with bloodghasts and narcomebas reanimating either griselbrand or elesh Norin or something. Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. One of the cool combos I saw once was the dragon wings, dragon fangs, etc cycle from scourge + sutured ghoul and with a full graveyard. Click This list is a work in progress. For those reasons alone, on top of others, Dread Return will never be unbanned. Dread Return ends the game, but being able to cast discard spells from your graveyard that also generate multiple 2/2 zombies is usually enough to end the game anyway. What's the auto win game 1 deck in modern? It does horrible things with Dredge, it's basically one of the things that differentiates Legacy Dredge from Modern Dredge. If dread return was unbanned modern what broken things could it do that would be broken? Bridge from Bellow - (G) (SF) (MC)Narcoamoeba - (G) (SF) (MC)Prized Amalgams - (G) (SF) (MC)Dragonlord Kolaghan - (G) (SF) (MC)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call - Updated images. Close. This list is a work in progress. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the ModernMagic community. I say it would be too dangerous to allow it. Can dread return be unbanned? Dread Return - (G) (SF) (MC)griselbrand - (G) (SF) (MC)flame-kin Zealot - (G) (SF) (MC)bridge from below - (G) (SF) (MC)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call - Updated images. share. Example vintage list: http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=16164&d=299736&f=VI. It is one of the cards that many people are confused by that was on the banned list for modern. It doesn't need to get even faster. These cards are super important. Press J to jump to the feed. best. Cards whose art, text, name, or combination thereof that are racially or culturally offensive are banned in all formats. Now imagine Dredge with free turn 2/3 Ionas, Elesh-Norn, Griselbrand or whatever. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, UW Midrange, Elves and all flavours of Twin. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Something like a 90/90 zombie with flying, vigilance, haste, trample and fear. Oracle Printed. Dread Return ends the game, but being able to cast discard spells from your graveyard that also generate multiple 2/2 zombies is usually enough to end the game anyway. Sword of the Meek - (G) (SF) (MC)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call - Updated images, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. However you need usually 7 or so sideboard cards to hate out dredge so it would be format warping for sure. Plus every other graveyard-matters deck would be screwed if everyone has to run multiple graveyard hate cards. EDIT: Everyone else has covered this in depth already but yeah, it's a free Zombify half the time since you can dredge away Narcomoebas and Bloodghasts for a Dakmor Salvage, slam the Ghasts back so you've got creatures, flash the Return back, reanimate some anthem-carrying beatstick back and then keep doing that as long as you have Returns in the yard.

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